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Dr Dependable (AUS) 2014

Profile

11g Rebel Raider x Reliability (Kurofune (USA))
Foaled October 11, 2014
Career: 103 starts, 8 - 9 - 20 $425,740
Trainer: E V Musgrove, Cranbourne
Ownership: Mrs I E H Musgrove & J E Turner
Dr Dependable is a 11 year old gelding by Rebel Raider out of the Kurofune mare, Reliability.
Last start was 4th at Coleraine on August 10, 2025 in the Ecycle Solutions Great Western Stpl over 3600 metres.

Sale Details

Lot 10 2021 Inglis August (Early) Online Sale
Vendor: L Macdonald Buyer: Fernwood Park $22,500
Rebel Raider (AUS)
Reliability (AUS)
Reset (AUS)
Picholine (AUS)
Kurofune (USA)
Capability (FR)
Zabeel (NZ)
Assertive Lass (AUS)
Dehere (USA)
Jewel Of Africa (NZ)
French Deputy (USA)
Blue Avenue (USA)
Nashwan (USA)
Victoress (USA)
Sir Tristram (IRE)
Zeditave (AUS)
Deputy Minister (CAN)
Dalmacia (NZ)
Deputy Minister (CAN)
Classic Go Go (USA)
Blushing Groom (FR)
Conquistador Cielo (USA)

Race Record

11yo
10Aug25
4th
Coleraine
Ecycle Solutions Great Western Stpl 3600m
Soft(5) M Kelly (65) 12/1 - 1st: Fabalot (60L)
10yo
27Jul25
4th
Casterton
Moredun Hill Stpl 3800m
Heavy(8) M Kelly (65) 25/1 - 1st: The Mighty Spar (23.5L)
10yo
20Jul25
7th
Hamilton
Ritchie’s IGA (Bm114) Hrdl 3200m
Heavy(10) M Kelly (70) 80/1 - 1st: Bignight Rebel (25.5L)
10yo
6Jul25
5th
Warrnambool
Warrnambool Sheetmetal Mark Primmer Memorial Stpl (Bm120) 3450m
Heavy(8) M Kelly (67.5) 25/1 - 1st: Noonday Gun (24.3L)
10yo
29Jun25
5th
Casterton
Bet365 Hrdl (Bm120) 3500m
Soft(6) Cillin Leonard (68) 50/1 - 1st: Gambu (27L)
10yo
30Apr25
5th
Warrnambool
Victory Dunroe Stpl (Bm120) 3450m
Soft(6) Conor Brassil (68.5) 100/1 - 1st: Jekyll'n'hyde (28.5L)
10yo
13Apr25
6th
Pakenham
Ecycle Solutions Stpl 3200m
Soft(5) Conor Brassil (65.5) 60/1 - 1st: Duke Of Bedford (36.5L)
10yo
28Mar25
5th
Warrnambool
Warrnambool Football Club Hrdl 3200m
Soft(6) M Kelly (67) 11/1 - 1st: Treasured Crown (32L)
10yo
20Mar25
2nd
Warrnambool
Barrier Trial 2400m
Soft(5) Conor Brassil () - 1st: Fabalot (5L)
10yo
13Mar25
4th
Cranbourne Training
Barrier Trial 2800m
Soft(6) M Kelly () - 1st: Wil John (14.3L)
10yo
27Feb25
5th
Warrnambool
Barrier Trial 2400m
Soft(6) M Kelly () - 1st: Ferago (7L)
10yo
22Feb25
10th
Yarra Glen
Shades Of Pink Diamond (Bm58) 1500m
Good(3) Nathan Punch (61) 100/1 - 1st: Queen Beira (31.3L)
10yo
3Feb25
9th
Cranbourne Training
Barrier Trial 1200m
Soft(6) R O'Sullivan () - 1st: Place du Carrousel (23.1L)
10yo
11Aug24
1st
Casterton
Ecycle Solutions Great Western Stpl 3800m
Soft(6) Cillin Leonard (65) 30/1 - 2nd: Mighty Oasis (0.8L)
10yo
4Aug24
10th
Sandown-Lakeside
Grand National Hrdl 4200m
Soft(6) Cillin Leonard (64) 200/1 - 1st: Affluential (28.6L)
9yo
28Jul24
4th
Casterton
Finns Fine Foods Hrdl 3500m
Soft(7) Cillin Leonard (65) 40/1 - 1st: Freddy The Eagle (13.8L)
9yo
21Jul24
6th
Pakenham
Ecycle Solutions Mosstrooper Stpl 3500m
Heavy(9) Cillin Leonard (65) 50/1 - 1st: Stern Idol (49.3L)
9yo
7Jul24
3rd
Warrnambool
McCarthy Trailer Screens Mark Primmer Memorial Stpl 3450m
Soft(6) D Horner Jnr (68.5) 5/1 - 1st: Blood And Sand (6.5L)
9yo
30Jun24
4th
Casterton
Adam Lindsay Gordon Series Heat 2 Hrdl (Bm120) 3500m
Soft(6) Cillin Leonard (66.5) 30/1 - 1st: Texas Hold'em (9.5L)
9yo
23Jun24
5th
Warrnambool
Michelin Service Centre Warrnambool Stpl (Bm120) 3450m
Soft(6) Cillin Leonard (65.5) 40/1 - 1st: Leaderboard (6.3L)
9yo
11Jun24
6th
Sale
Ecycle Solutions Stpl 3296m
Soft(7) Cillin Leonard (65) 40/1 - 1st: The Mighty Spar (15.5L)
9yo
2Jun24
6th
Sandown-Lakeside
Sportsbet Australian Stpl 3900m
Good(4) Cillin Leonard (65) 100/1 - 1st: Bell Ex One (22.1L)
9yo
19May24
7th
Casterton
Ecycle Two Rivers Stpl 3800m
Soft(6) Cillin Leonard (65) 30/1 - 1st: Elvison (29.8L)
9yo
1May24
9th
Warrnambool
Sovereign Resort Galleywood Hrdl 3200m
Soft(7) Richard O'Donoghue (65) 150/1 - 1st: Chains Of Honour (16.9L)
9yo
14Apr24
6th
Pakenham
Ecycle Solutions Rst Stpl 3200m
Soft(5) Richard O'Donoghue (65) 16/1 - 1st: Budd Fox (12.5L)
9yo
7Apr24
5th
Ballarat
Henry Dwyer Racing Rst Stpl 3250m
Soft(6) Richard O'Donoghue (67.5) 20/1 - 1st: Duke Of Bedford (14.7L)
9yo
3Apr24
4th
Yarra Glen
Barrier Trial 2400m
Heavy(10) Richard O'Donoghue () - 1st: Fort Charles (14.3L)
9yo
12Mar24
2nd
Warrnambool
Warrnambool Football Club Hrdl 3200m
Soft(6) William Mc Carthy (65) 60/1 - 1st: Crosshill (5.3L)
9yo
7Mar24
1st
Terang
Barrier Trial 2400m
Soft(5) Richard O'Donoghue () - 2nd: Fort Charles (0.1L)
9yo
27Feb24
13th
Bendigo
Kieran Byrne Building (Bm58) 2400m
Good(3) Nathan Newton (62) 150/1 - 1st: Farag (17.4L)
9yo
14Feb24
2nd
Cranbourne Training
Barrier Trial 2800m
Soft(6) D Horner Jnr () - 1st: Tom Foolery (6L)
9yo
6Feb24
13th
Stony Creek
The Invy Espy Hotel (Bm58) 2100m
Good(3) Alysha Warren (61) 100/1 - 1st: Schweinsteiger (24.7L)
9yo
14Jan24
8th
Balnarring
Trophy Race 1600m
Good(4) Caitlin King (73) 20/1 - 1st: Red Stiletto (17.5L)
9yo
13Aug23
3rd
Coleraine
Community Bank Coleraine Hrdl (0-114) 3300m
Soft(5) Luke Dempsey (68) 20/1 - 1st: Rising Renown (7.8L)
9yo
6Aug23
7th
Sandown-Lakeside
Ladbroke It! Hrdl 3400m
Soft(5) Luke Dempsey (65.5) 60/1 - 1st: Cleaver (20.6L)
9yo
1Aug23
2nd
Traralgon
Barrier Trial 2400m
Soft(6) Richard O'Donoghue () - 1st: Laybuy (25L)
8yo
16Jul23
5th
Pakenham
Ecycle Mosstrooper Stpl 3500m
Soft(6) W Gordon (65) 25/1 - 1st: Stern Idol (39.7L)
8yo
2Jul23
8th
Warrnambool
Harrington Design Hrdl (1jw) 3200m
Heavy(10) Richard O'Donoghue (65.5) 60/1 - 1st: Bedford (47.2L)
8yo
7Jun23
4th
Sale
Gippsland Times Stpl 3240m
Soft(6) William Mc Carthy (65) 16/1 - 1st: Not Usual Dream (10.0L)
8yo
21May23
7th
Sandown-Lakeside
Ladbrokes Australian Hrdl 3900m
Soft(7) William Mc Carthy (65) 60/1 - 1st: Circle The Sun (28.2L)
8yo
14May23
3rd
Casterton
Shojun Concrete Hrdl 3500m
Soft(5) William Mc Carthy (65.5) 25/1 - 1st: Fabalot (0.2L)
8yo
10May23
3rd
Traralgon
Barrier Trial 2400m
Soft(6) Chris Mc Carthy () - 1st: Tamarack (2.7L)
8yo
4May23
5th
Warrnambool
Hammonds Paints Champ Nov Hrdl 3200m
Heavy(10) Richard O'Donoghue (68) 100/1 - 1st: Circle The Sun (12.8L)
8yo
16Apr23
6th
Pakenham
John Adams Memorial Hrdl (1jw) 3200m
Heavy(10) Chris Mc Carthy (66) 80/1 - 1st: Nelson (24.5L)
8yo
2Apr23
6th
Hamilton
G Macgillivray Carpenter Hrdl 3200m
Soft(7) Edward Keating (65.5) 16/1 - 1st: Sky Hero (10.2L)
8yo
17Mar23
3rd
Terang
Decron Mdn Hrdl (Bm120) 3200m
Soft(5) Richard O'Donoghue (67.5) 15/2 - 1st: San Remo (9.0L)
8yo
9Mar23
1st
Cranbourne Training
Barrier Trial 2400m
Soft(6) Richard O'Donoghue () - 2nd: Blandford Lad (1.3L)
8yo
3Mar23
7th
Warrnambool
Barrier Trial 2800m
Soft(5) Edward Keating () - 1st: So Belafonte (14.2L)
8yo
24Feb23
4th
Cranbourne Training
Barrier Trial 2400m
Good(4) Neil Ryan () - 1st: Coleridge (7.3L)
8yo
9Feb23
10th
Pakenham
Furphy Refreshing Ale (Bm64) 1600m
Good(4) W Gordon (61) 150/1 - 1st: Piaggio (25.7L)
8yo
25Jan23
9th
Pakenham
Sportsbet Bet With Mates-Bm64 1400m
Good(3) Makisha Salter (57) 150/1 - 1st: Rhinoceros (13.0L)
8yo
28Aug22
5th
Ballarat
Ecycle Sol. Jj Houlahan Hrdl 3250m
Heavy(10) D Horner Jnr (65) 25/1 - 1st: Bell Ex One (22.0L)
8yo
14Aug22
3rd
Coleraine
Coleraine Comm. Bank Hrdl 3300m
Soft(5) A Lynch (70.5) 6/1 - 1st: Bedford (3.5L)
8yo
7Aug22
6th
Sandown-Lakeside
Grand National Hurdle 4200m
Soft(6) Chris Mc Carthy (64) 30/1 - 1st: Saunter Boy (46.0L)
7yo
24Jul22
1st
Casterton
Peter Nolte Electr. Mdn Hrdl 3480m
Soft(7) Richard O'Donoghue (66.5) 20/1 - 2nd: Heir To The Throne (3.0L)
7yo
17Jul22
5th
Pakenham
Pb Ronald Mem. Race Mdn Hrdl 3500m
Heavy(10) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 13/2 - 1st: Slipintothis (16.0L)
7yo
3Jul22
3rd
Warrnambool
Reicom Building Mdn Hrdl 3200m
Heavy(10) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 20/1 - 1st: Chains Of Honour (15.5L)
7yo
26Jun22
2nd
Casterton
Ecycle Mdn Hrdl 3480m
Heavy(8) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 10/1 - 1st: Gravistas (8.0L)
7yo
19Jun22
4th
Warrnambool
Tab Mdn Hrdl 3200m
Heavy(10) Richard O'Donoghue (66.5) 7/1 - 1st: Mighty Oasis (12.0L)
7yo
8Jun22
3rd
Sale
E-Cycle Solutions Mdn Hrdl 3280m
Heavy(9) A Lynch (69.5) 4/1 - 1st: Twin Spinner (14.8L)
7yo
31May22
4th
Hamilton
Hammonds Mdn Hrdl 3200m
Heavy(10) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 20/1 - 1st: Tolemac (9.9L)
7yo
15May22
4th
Casterton
Ecycle Mdn Hrdl 3480m
Soft(5) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 9/2 - 1st: Onset (5.6L)
7yo
3May22
5th
Warrnambool
G Taylor Memorial Mdn Hrdl 3200m
Soft(6) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 20/1 - 1st: Rider In The Snow (10.7L)
7yo
18Apr22
0
Pakenham
Ecycle Solutions Mdn Hrdl 3200m
Soft(7) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 13/4 - 1st: Pueblo (0.0L)
7yo
3Apr22
4th
Hamilton
Bet 365 Mdn Hrdl 3200m
Soft(5) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 11/4 - 1st: Blenheim Palace (6.1L)
7yo
25Mar22
2nd
Warrnambool
Swintons Furniture Mdn Hrdl 3200m
Soft(5) D Horner Jnr (69.5) 15/4 - 1st: Hush Writer (6.0L)
7yo
18Mar22
8th
Terang
Inverleigh Hotel Cup (Bm64) 1850m
Soft(5) Mikaela Lawrence (60) 30/1 - 1st: Gonnadancealot (15.2L)
7yo
11Mar22
1st
Traralgon
Barrier Trial 2800m
Soft(5) D Horner Jnr () - 2nd: Sostenido (5L)
7yo
4Mar22
5th
Warrnambool
Barrier Trial 2800m
Soft(6) D Horner Jnr () - 1st: Tolemac (4.3L)
7yo
25Feb22
2nd
Cranbourne Training
Barrier Trial 2400m
Soft(5) D Horner Jnr () - 1st: Portland Jimmy (0.8L)
7yo
7Feb22
6th
Cranbourne Training
Barrier Trial 1550m
Good(4) A Mc Cabe () - 1st: Hush Writer (0L)
7yo
19Jan22
6th
Moe
Barrier Trial 1200m
Good(4) A Lynch () - 1st: Bake Off (0L)
6yo
31Jul21
6th
Morphettville
Accolade Wines (Bm78) 1800m
Heavy(10) J Holder (56) 10/1 - 1st: Classy Joe (10.2L)
6yo
10Jul21
3rd
Gawler
Holdfast Insurance (Bm76) 2100m
Soft(7) Ms C Jones (57) 12/1 - 1st: Mahis Angel (5.4L)
6yo
26Jun21
3rd
Morphettville
Cancer Council Sa (Bm78) 2032m
Heavy(9) Ms C Jones (56.5) 30/1 - 1st: Not Usual Glorious (5.8L)
6yo
12Jun21
9th
Morphettville Parks
Tab (Bm72) 1950m
Soft(5) Ms C Jones (60) 30/1 - 1st: Not Usual Glorious (9.8L)
6yo
29May21
6th
Morphettville Parks
The John Rix Memorial (Bm68) 1950m
Soft(5) J Holder (62.5) 15/1 - 1st: Call Me Shamus (6.0L)
6yo
15May21
7th
Morphettville
G.H. Mumm (Bm80) 2014m
Soft(5) J Holder (58) 65/10 - 1st: Canford (9.2L)
6yo
1May21
6th
Morphettville
G.H. Mumm (Bm82) 1600m
Good(4) J Holder (57) 10/1 - 1st: Ace Of Clubs (1.1L)
6yo
10Apr21
7th
Morphettville
Autumn Racing Carnival (Bm76) 1600m
Good(4) Melissa Julius (57.5) 30/1 - 1st: France's Boy (2.5L)
6yo
23Mar21
4th
Morphettville Parks
Barrier Trial 1250m
Good(4) J Holder () - 1st: Cashin' Chex (3.7L)
6yo
14Nov20
5th
Morphettville Parks
Tab Make A Date With Play-Bm82 2250m
Good(4) J Holder (58) 9/2 - 1st: Andrea Mantegna (4.9L)
6yo
3Nov20
7th
Morphettville
Terry Howe Printing (Bm80) 2500m
Good(3) Todd Pannell (60) 12/1 - 1st: Hasta La Fiorente (6.0L)
6yo
24Oct20
1st
Morphettville Parks
Chris Young's 50th (Rs2ly) 1950m
Good(4) J Holder (59.5) 7/2 - 2nd: Ace Of Clubs (0.5L)
6yo
10Oct20
2nd
Morphettville
Enzo's At Home (Bm82) 1800m
Good(4) J Holder (56.5) 55/10 - 1st: Somerset Maugham (3.5L)
6yo
26Sep20
6th
Morphettville Parks
Spring Carnival At Morp.(Bm76) 2250m
Good(4) Teagan Voorham (57) 10/1 - 1st: Classy Joe (2.6L)
6yo
5Sep20
5th
Morphettville Parks
Holdfast Insurance (Bm76) 1950m
Good(4) Teagan Voorham (57.5) 7/2 - 1st: Flow Meter (2.0L)
6yo
22Aug20
3rd
Morphettville
Tab (Bm72) 1800m
Soft(6) Teagan Voorham (59.5) 12/1 - 1st: Muntham Missile (0.9L)
6yo
8Aug20
3rd
Murray Bridge Gh
Riverscape Food & Wine (Rs2ly) 1400m
Soft(6) Teagan Voorham (51.5) 60/1 - 1st: Nipperkin (2.0L)
5yo
18Jul20
9th
Morphettville Parks
Chapel Hill (Bm82) 1250m
Good(4) Ms C Jones (57) 40/1 - 1st: Oh Mo (6.2L)
5yo
30Jun20
5th
Morphettville
Barrier Trial 1200m
Soft(6) Ms C Jones () - 1st: Mayameen (7.4L)
5yo
15Feb20
4th
Morphettville
Holdfast Insurance B'day Cup LR 2043m
Good(4) Jerry Chau (54) 12/1 - 1st: Master Chum (1.4L)
5yo
25Jan20
3rd
Gawler
Marx Real Estate (Bm78) 2100m
Good(4) Jerry Chau (57) 18/10 - 1st: Coffee Amour (2.6L)
5yo
11Jan20
1st
Murray Bridge Gh
Don't Bother Me @ Glenrae-Bm78 2000m
Good(4) J Holder (58) 2/1 - 2nd: Lostarc (0.1L)
5yo
28Dec19
2nd
Morphettville
Schweppes Southern Speed-Bm75 2046m
Good(4) Jerry Chau (55) 45/10 - 1st: Star Status (0.2L)
5yo
14Dec19
3rd
Morphettville
Aami (Bm75) 2019m
Good(4) J Bowditch (58) 45/10 - 1st: Eperdument (1.3L)
5yo
23Nov19
1st
Morphettville Parks
Fleurieu Milk Company (Bm80) 2250m
Good(3) J Holder (54) 4/5 - 2nd: Crafty Devil (1.3L)
5yo
5Nov19
2nd
Morphettville
Aami Skybeau Stayers (Bm80) 2500m
Good(4) Raquel Clark (54) 8/1 - 1st: Hasta La War (2.8L)
5yo
26Oct19
3rd
Morphettville Parks
Aami Handicap (Bm70) 2250m
Good(4) Jerry Chau (55) 4/1 - 1st: Hasta La War (3.1L)
5yo
5Oct19
2nd
Morphettville Parks
Aami (Bm70) 2250m
Soft(5) Jerry Chau (54) 2/1 - 1st: Franked (0.1L)
5yo
21Sep19
2nd
Morphettville
Fleurieu Milk Company (Bm70) 2014m
Soft(6) Jerry Chau (53.5) 5/1 - 1st: Shop Til I Drop (0.4L)
5yo
7Sep19
3rd
Morphettville Parks
Mjs Floorcoverings (Bm70) 1950m
Soft(6) Raquel Clark (56.5) 15/8 - 1st: Shop Til I Drop (2.8L)
5yo
28Aug19
1st
Murray Bridge Gh
Swanport Hotel (Bm70) 1600m
Good(4) Raquel Clark (55) 5/1 - 2nd: Sir Johnson (0.8L)
5yo
14Aug19
5th
Balaklava
Mid North Party Hire (Bm60) 1600m
Soft(5) Jerry Chau (57.5) 28/10 - 1st: Unscopeable (5.3L)
4yo
28Jul19
3rd
Gawler
Sanders Fodder (Bm60) 1200m
Soft(7) Jerry Chau (57.5) 11/1 - 1st: Arctic Blaze (3.5L)
4yo
6Feb19
3rd
Morphettville Parks
Nutella Palooza 20/4 (Bm60) 2250m
Good(4) Raquel Clark (59) 15/8 - 1st: Rockarral (0.4L)
4yo
19Jan19
4th
Morphettville
Dominant (Bm70) 2049m
Good(4) Raquel Clark (54.5) 55/10 - 1st: Excessabeel (3.6L)
4yo
28Dec18
1st
Gawler
Goldin Farms-Akeed Mofeed-Bm60 2121m
Soft(5) Raquel Clark (59) 12/10 - 2nd: Pat The Weapon (0.2L)
4yo
19Dec18
5th
Strathalbyn
Toffish Hcp (C2) 1600m
Soft(5) Todd Pannell (58.5) 4/1 - 1st: Fulton Street (2.2L)
4yo
5Dec18
7th
Gawler
Goldin Farms-Akeed Mofeed (C2) 1200m
Good(3) Todd Pannell (59) 20/1 - 1st: Handsome Return (6.4L)
3yo
18Jul18
8th
Balaklava
Agfert (Bm60) 1600m
Good(4) Eran Boyd (60) 65/10 - 1st: Wanted By All (5.6L)
3yo
6Jun18
4th
Gawler
Coopers Session Ale (Bm64) 2122m
Soft(5) Raquel Clark (58.5) 28/10 - 1st: Meli Melo (2.9L)
3yo
26May18
10th
Sandown-Lakeside
Ladbrokes Cash Out Hcp 2100m
Soft(5) Lachlan King (52) 25/1 - 1st: Mazzuro (5.0L)
3yo
12May18
3rd
Morphettville
Goldin Farms Prov Series Final 1800m
Good(4) Ms C Lindop (54) 10/1 - 1st: Bertwhistle (3.3L)
3yo
2May18
4th
Strathalbyn
McIlroy Auto Group (Bm75) 1600m
Good(3) Ms C Lindop (54) 20/1 - 1st: Enki (3.0L)
3yo
18Apr18
3rd
Murray Bridge
Lloyd Cromwell Tribute (Bm64) 1400m
Good(4) Eran Boyd (57) 200/1 - 1st: Borris In Ossory (2.1L)
3yo
5Apr18
6th
Morphettville Parks
Barrier Trial 1000m
Good(4) Eran Boyd () - 1st: Broadband (6.4L)
3yo
6Dec17
1st
Strathalbyn
Gipsie Jack Mdn Plate 2050m
Good(4) Ms C Lindop (56.5) 4/5 - 2nd: McAuliffe (1.3L)
3yo
19Nov17
2nd
Strathalbyn
Gipsie Jack Mdn 2050m
Soft(7) Ms C Lindop (56.5) 2/1 - 1st: Ashady Hussy (0.2L)
3yo
7Nov17
6th
Morphettville
Handiskips (Sa) Mdn Plate 1600m
Good(4) Ms C Lindop (56.5) 35/10 - 1st: Exalted Traveller (3.1L)
3yo
20Oct17
4th
Murray Bridge
Ra & Ce Burns Ceilings Mdn 1400m
Good(4) Ms C Lindop (56) 20/1 - 1st: Laure Me In (5.8L)
3yo
27Sep17
7th
Balaklava
Coopers Mdn Plate 1300m
Firm(2) Ms C Lindop (57.5) 8/1 - 1st: All Eez (8.5L)
3yo
8Sep17
5th
Morphettville Parks
Barrier Trial 1000m
Heavy(8) Ms C Lindop () - 1st: Love Club (8.3L)
2yo
25Apr17
3rd
Murray Bridge
Korean War Remembered Mdn 1206m
Soft(7) Raquel Clark (57.5) 15/1 - 1st: Plover Lover (4.8L)